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is that a problem for the defense. >> it's absolutely a problem for the defense. every inconsistency in his story is a problem for george zimmerman. that's why most defense attorneys don't want defendants talking to law enforcement. you have the right to remain silent. most defense attorneys want their clients to exercise it. he did not do that. he gave multiple statements inconsistent with his own story or another witness he's story that's a problem for him. >> chris serrino is on the stand now testifying. let's go back and listen in. >> you wanted us to believe that you were concerned about having a flashlight to move back where you just ran?
is that a problem for the defense. >> it's absolutely a problem for the defense. every inconsistency in his story is a problem for george zimmerman. that's why most defense attorneys don't want defendants talking to law enforcement. you have the right to remain silent. most defense attorneys want their clients to exercise it. he did not do that. he gave multiple statements inconsistent with his own story or another witness he's story that's a problem for him. >> chris serrino is on...
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defense attorneys want it in. do you know what went down in court this morning in regards to that reenactment? >> i'm not so sure the prosecutors want to keep it out. we have limited information about what was going to happen this morning. there was supposed to be a mini hearing at about 8:30 this morning but the hearing was cancelled. the judge let everyone know that the lawyers had come to an agreement and there was no longer an issue about any of the video tape statements. i suspect that we will be hearing testimony and perhaps also seeing those video tape statements. we've all seen them but the jury has not. >> the first witness is about to take the stand. this is a doctor. he's testified as a defense voice analyst expert for the fbi during a separate hearing. don't know exactly what he's going to testify about but we suspect we do. let's listen. >> my name is hirotak. last name is nakasone. currently i'm assigned to the operational technology division of the fbi. and performs variety of duties as a senior sci
defense attorneys want it in. do you know what went down in court this morning in regards to that reenactment? >> i'm not so sure the prosecutors want to keep it out. we have limited information about what was going to happen this morning. there was supposed to be a mini hearing at about 8:30 this morning but the hearing was cancelled. the judge let everyone know that the lawyers had come to an agreement and there was no longer an issue about any of the video tape statements. i suspect...
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a shooting he claims was in self defense. joining us from sanford, florida, on the record host greta vansusteren who was in the courtroom for the dramatic testimony. there's no one better to see and hear the drama than you. give us a sense what went down from your perspective. >> eric, it was fascinating being in the courtroom. i watched it on television, but when you're actually inside and get to see the players, fascinating to see the prosecutors and the defense lawyers, then there's the defendant, the one in such deep trouble, and who could end up going to prison for a long time. if you swing your eyes to the other side of the courtroom, you see the family of trayvon martin, obviously grief stricken, they're there to find out what happened. and it is terrible, both sides have a hostility from the defense and prosecution and you have the jury, and it is only six people here in florida, unlike most juries where there are about 12. the judge takes the bench, a woman judge, no nonsense, won't let the people in the media have a
a shooting he claims was in self defense. joining us from sanford, florida, on the record host greta vansusteren who was in the courtroom for the dramatic testimony. there's no one better to see and hear the drama than you. give us a sense what went down from your perspective. >> eric, it was fascinating being in the courtroom. i watched it on television, but when you're actually inside and get to see the players, fascinating to see the prosecutors and the defense lawyers, then there's...
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>> it's incredible for the jury and for the defense. this is the picture you want them to get and you don't always get it. at the beginning of the trial they tried to bring the jury out there. it was rejected by the judge. the idea was let's walk them through. the prosecution wants to show them what does add up and what doesn't add up. this is a huge point for the defense, it shows he had nothing to hide, he didn't need a lawyer there, he walked everybody through. he does have problems, the bushes, the hand over the nose and mouth, like he claims. he's got some story issues but, still, he makes it seem, he walks it through calmly and he doesn't seem afraid, doesn't seem like he's hiding something. that could be a strong point for the defense. >> quick break. back to the trial in two minutes. ordinary rubs don't always work on my arthritis. try capzasin-hp. it penetrates deep to block pain signals for hours of relief. capzasin-hp. take the pain out of arthritis. >>> let's take you back to this trial. what you're hearing, they're still pl
>> it's incredible for the jury and for the defense. this is the picture you want them to get and you don't always get it. at the beginning of the trial they tried to bring the jury out there. it was rejected by the judge. the idea was let's walk them through. the prosecution wants to show them what does add up and what doesn't add up. this is a huge point for the defense, it shows he had nothing to hide, he didn't need a lawyer there, he walked everybody through. he does have problems,...
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and zimmerman gets defensive and says no, no. so the jury is hearing a little bit of cross-examination of zimmerman, even though he isn't under oath. >> one of the things that's so interesting is what we know -- sounds like we're about to go into the courtroom. jeff, i'll come back to you after the next break. >> the interviews are a little hard to make out. i didn't know -- >> just so you know that that has come into evidence and you will be able to take it back with you into the jury room and you'll have a way to go ahead and play it. okay? that help? >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> investigator serino, just to make it clear at about 52 minutes into that interview on the 29th, you were playing the recording of the screams for help. correct? do you recall that? the 9/11 recording? >> yes, i believe so. >> and in terms of you were asked in terms of who it was when he stated "that doesn't even sound like me." do you recall that? >> correct, yes. >> you were also referencing when you interviewed him in terms of there's only thr
and zimmerman gets defensive and says no, no. so the jury is hearing a little bit of cross-examination of zimmerman, even though he isn't under oath. >> one of the things that's so interesting is what we know -- sounds like we're about to go into the courtroom. jeff, i'll come back to you after the next break. >> the interviews are a little hard to make out. i didn't know -- >> just so you know that that has come into evidence and you will be able to take it back with you into...
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case for the defense, and some-speculating maybe the defense wants the prosecution to rest its case, which could happen this week. the defense may just say, we rest our case, the state has not proven this beyond a randal doubt. the detective on the stan stand, he was quite skeptical of george zimmerman's story. and we have a couple of the full screens to show what he summarized last year after interviewing zimmerman a few times. number one, about zimmerman's injuries. quote, marginally don't with a life-threatening violent inside during which neither a deadly weapon or deadly force was deployed by trayvon martin, and the detective said on at least two occasions george michael zimmerman failed to identify himself as a concerned resident, as a neighbor watch member, to trayvon martin. so clearly serino was skeptical of zimmerman's claims, first whether his story added up and whether the florida self-defense law was applicable. >> they're about to begin this and we'll have live coverage right after this. the thing is bee, i got my mom wrapped around my little finger. do you? yeah, i do.
case for the defense, and some-speculating maybe the defense wants the prosecution to rest its case, which could happen this week. the defense may just say, we rest our case, the state has not proven this beyond a randal doubt. the detective on the stan stand, he was quite skeptical of george zimmerman's story. and we have a couple of the full screens to show what he summarized last year after interviewing zimmerman a few times. number one, about zimmerman's injuries. quote, marginally don't...
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pull the rug out from under the defense. the mother may be called last. the prosecution likes to put on emotional testimony last. she'll testify it's trayvon many voice and it will be up to the jury to decide whether they believe she is correctly identifying her son's voice. we already heard some of that from john good who said he believed it was george zimmerman boris yeltsining for help. martha: the morning is not there to testify to his own credibility is trayvon martin. his mother would be testifying on whether this young man is capable of saying something like he said to george zimmerman, "you are going to die tonight," and she could answer to that. >> that's a dangerous avenue. character evidence is a mine field. if they open the door by saying my son would not do that. all that evidence the judge excluded about his fighting and saying he wanted to buy a gun would come in. martha: what do you expect them to want to get from her? >> they will want to get the emotion from her. this is the mother after dead child. my moth
pull the rug out from under the defense. the mother may be called last. the prosecution likes to put on emotional testimony last. she'll testify it's trayvon many voice and it will be up to the jury to decide whether they believe she is correctly identifying her son's voice. we already heard some of that from john good who said he believed it was george zimmerman boris yeltsining for help. martha: the morning is not there to testify to his own credibility is trayvon martin. his mother would be...
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this sort of puts the defense on the defense. doesn't it? >> well, we started to see aforeshadowing of that coming because last week the defense suggested that that's exactly what happened, that he had been sucker-punched. the problem is the bushes statement. there really aren't bushes there that would suggest that somebody was hiding in the bushes. the maps are being shown. interestingly, at one point there was a request of the judge from the defense that they actually wanted to take the jury out to the location to walk around. the judge said, better not, in part because this jury is going to be sequestered and we haven't have them wandering around out there in public. but it is the inconsistencies, and the fine inconsistencies, that are the challenge of course for the defense. the audio statement, plus there will eventually, we believe, be the video statement, the re-enactme re-enactment, entered into the court record here. that's what the jury is going to have a chance to look at and compare and contrast. i also to want to just step back
this sort of puts the defense on the defense. doesn't it? >> well, we started to see aforeshadowing of that coming because last week the defense suggested that that's exactly what happened, that he had been sucker-punched. the problem is the bushes statement. there really aren't bushes there that would suggest that somebody was hiding in the bushes. the maps are being shown. interestingly, at one point there was a request of the judge from the defense that they actually wanted to take the...
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if the defense puts it on they will hear it differently and perceive it as good for the defense. the most important thing about this tape is not even the content. it's the fact that man without a lawyer was so willing to go through the details right after the crime and spill everything and seemingly willing to say whatever the police wanted him to say. that carries a tremendous amount of credibility because most people who kill a human being clam up, lawyer up and don't go on video tape. >> strong point but as sonny has made, did he keep his story straight and maybe he didn't and becomes an asset for the prosecution. thanks to all three of you. the trial starts in about 15 minutes. >> we'll bring it straight to you. first, other news, lost and found. a good issamaritan uses the pow of social media to return a precious keepsake to a boy. and didn't know where to start. a contractor before at angie's list, you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare written by people just like you. no company can pay to be on angie's list, so you can trust what you're reading.
if the defense puts it on they will hear it differently and perceive it as good for the defense. the most important thing about this tape is not even the content. it's the fact that man without a lawyer was so willing to go through the details right after the crime and spill everything and seemingly willing to say whatever the police wanted him to say. that carries a tremendous amount of credibility because most people who kill a human being clam up, lawyer up and don't go on video tape....
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exist such as self defense? >> yes, sir. >> okay. >> and that was just a continuing sort of overview that you had? in all cases? >> yes, sir. >> so now let's move forward and i think you said earlier there was nothing specifically inconsistent with the statements before and the re-creation video, correct? >> no, sir. >> okay. now, let's just sort of move forward into your next efforts in this regard. i'm going to then move us up pretty quickly to the next interview with mr. zimmerman, but before you got to the that next interview with mr. zimmerman, tell the jury, if you would, what other actions you were doing as the investigating officer. >> from the beginning? >> well, yeah. we sort of have gone through the 26th, correct? that night. >> okay. >> and then we've talked about that you had a dozen or so witness statements had you already gathered on the 27th. >> okay. >> and that we had the interview and the re-creation interview on the 27th. so moving us from that pointen forward. >> other than identifying trayv
exist such as self defense? >> yes, sir. >> okay. >> and that was just a continuing sort of overview that you had? in all cases? >> yes, sir. >> so now let's move forward and i think you said earlier there was nothing specifically inconsistent with the statements before and the re-creation video, correct? >> no, sir. >> okay. now, let's just sort of move forward into your next efforts in this regard. i'm going to then move us up pretty quickly to the...
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is that a problem for the defense. >> it's absolutely a problem for the defense. every inconsistency in his story is a problem for george zimmerman. that's why most defense attorneys don't want defendants talking to law enforcement. you have the right to remain silent. most defense attorneys want their clients to exercise it. he did not do that. he gave multiple statements inconsistent with his own story or another witness he's story that's a problem for him. >> chris serrino is on the stand now testifying. let's go back and listen in. >> you wanted us to believe that you were concerned about having a flashlight to move back where you just ran? what's up with that? >> it sounds like you're looking for him. >> you brought a flashlight with you. >> yes. >> what if you don't see him. >> i'm going to catch the bad guy. >>> the punk can't get away. >> this is an interrogation room. we are in a whole different area right here. this is why i took you out of there. so i can recall your memory and let you see if they say if you say you walked back to your car -- is there a
is that a problem for the defense. >> it's absolutely a problem for the defense. every inconsistency in his story is a problem for george zimmerman. that's why most defense attorneys don't want defendants talking to law enforcement. you have the right to remain silent. most defense attorneys want their clients to exercise it. he did not do that. he gave multiple statements inconsistent with his own story or another witness he's story that's a problem for him. >> chris serrino is on...
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based in tripoli but moving around the country is a department of defense site security team with special forces capability. lieutenant colonel andrew wood takes charge on spring of 2012. >> there was uptick of terror attacks in libya? >> that is true. >> bret: despite an average of two security incidents every three days, he and his team are slated to leave in libya by summer's end. march 28th, americans in libya send a cable to secretary of state clinton requesting more security. april 6th, a bomb is tossed over the wall of the benghazi compound, no one is hurt. april 19th, a returning cable signed by clinton says security would actually be scaled back. clinton will later deny knowing about the exchange. june 6th and ide is placed on the north gated. no one is hurt. the next day the newly named ambassador christopher stephens asks to keep two security teams, the state department ordered to have been removed. his request is denied. june 11th, a convoy transporting the united kingdom's ambassador is ambushed in benghazi. he isn't hurt but two people are. they decided to pull out of bengha
based in tripoli but moving around the country is a department of defense site security team with special forces capability. lieutenant colonel andrew wood takes charge on spring of 2012. >> there was uptick of terror attacks in libya? >> that is true. >> bret: despite an average of two security incidents every three days, he and his team are slated to leave in libya by summer's end. march 28th, americans in libya send a cable to secretary of state clinton requesting more...
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a lot of others think it's a good day for the defense. >> i don't think it was a good day for the defense, i think it was a great day for the defense. you have your lead investigator, the lead detective who is saying all the things the defense lawyer wants him to do. if there's any witness you want on the state side, it your lead detective. the only way they can be won by the state is if zimmerman is giving inconsistent statements. the lead detective says all the statements are consistent. that's powerful, that's strong. they're going to go to the top of the hour. here's some more questioning from mark o'meara, the criminal defense attorney and this is chris serino, the direct from the police department who investigated zimmerman that might. >> i think you said earlier there was nothing specifically inconsistent with the statements before and ere-creation video, correct? >> no, sir. >> okay. now let's just sort of move forward into your next efforts in this regard. i'm going to then move us up pretty quickly to the next interview with mr. zimmerman. before before you got to thatneck inter
a lot of others think it's a good day for the defense. >> i don't think it was a good day for the defense, i think it was a great day for the defense. you have your lead investigator, the lead detective who is saying all the things the defense lawyer wants him to do. if there's any witness you want on the state side, it your lead detective. the only way they can be won by the state is if zimmerman is giving inconsistent statements. the lead detective says all the statements are...
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here the defense is alleging self-defense. remember, the florida self-defense instruction says that zimmerman has to reasonably believe that he is in facing eminent death, or eminent great bodily harm. but you have to read that law in context of everything that occurred out there at the scene. that he was being followed, that he was being stalked, that he was being looked at as a suspect when he was doing nothing wrong. so when we take all these things together, the jury is going to have to use that self-defense instruction, but also look at the evidence of the depraved mind of george zimmerman. and that's going to be very strong evidence for the prosecution. >> ken padowitz, thank you for being here tonight. and we will certainly be following this. a big day tomorrow. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is george. the day building a play set begins with a surprise twinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪ for all those who slee
here the defense is alleging self-defense. remember, the florida self-defense instruction says that zimmerman has to reasonably believe that he is in facing eminent death, or eminent great bodily harm. but you have to read that law in context of everything that occurred out there at the scene. that he was being followed, that he was being stalked, that he was being looked at as a suspect when he was doing nothing wrong. so when we take all these things together, the jury is going to have to use...
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10:45 p.m. >> i asked the defense attache, is anything coming? >> reporter: the short answer, no. >> i said thank you very much. and we went on with our work. >> reporter: 10:54 benghazi. attackers are drove out of the compound. by that time, sean smith is confirmed dead. but nobody can find ambassador stevens. now 5:00 p.m. in washington. defense secretary leon panetta attends his weekly meeting with the president. >> we ordered all available dod assets to respond. >> reporter: but none outside libya will. >> the quickest response option available was a security team that was located at the embassy in tripoli. >> reporter: the americans have no plane in tripoli. >> we agreed we would move forward with chartering a plane to fly a response team to benghazi to provide additional reinforcement. >> reporter: 11:10 p.m., benghazi. a u.s. drone armed with cameras begins circling with a come pound. five minutes later, a second wave of attackers arrives. >> the annex team withdrew from the facility, and the second wave of attackers took it over. >> did a
10:45 p.m. >> i asked the defense attache, is anything coming? >> reporter: the short answer, no. >> i said thank you very much. and we went on with our work. >> reporter: 10:54 benghazi. attackers are drove out of the compound. by that time, sean smith is confirmed dead. but nobody can find ambassador stevens. now 5:00 p.m. in washington. defense secretary leon panetta attends his weekly meeting with the president. >> we ordered all available dod assets to...
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in march 2011 he addressed the american people from the national defense university in washington. the president who wanted to pivot away from the middle east was now explaining why he was intervening in a civil war in libya. it was to stop a blood bath in a port city that most americans had never heard of. a place called benghazi. >> if we waited one more day, benghazi could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world. i refused to let that happen. >> but saving benghazi from gadhafi was not the end of that story. at that moment, in a jail cell in southern california, a czech former meth cooker was working on a loopy scheme that would one day command international attention. it employed a low budget comically inept movie he called desert warrior. he produced it when he was paroled in june 2011. federal authorities would only allow us an interview with him over the phone. >> when you began to make this film, what was your intent? >> it just gives a message to the world. be careful. evil coming from the east. >> what was t
in march 2011 he addressed the american people from the national defense university in washington. the president who wanted to pivot away from the middle east was now explaining why he was intervening in a civil war in libya. it was to stop a blood bath in a port city that most americans had never heard of. a place called benghazi. >> if we waited one more day, benghazi could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world. i...
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but on cross-examination, he said, really, the core of a defense self-defense case, and that is that george zimmerman was on the bottom, trayvon martin was on the top. that trayvon martin was pounding him, m, ma style, mixed martial arts style. that zimmerman was yelling for help. all this happened just moments before the bullet shot rang out. now, he had inconsistencies with his prior statements as well. he had to limit his testimony to what he could remember. he did not see george zimmerman's head being pounded on the sidewalk as zimmerman claims. had edidn't corroborate other parts of the story. but overall, very strong testimony for the defense. >> just from a layman watching this, lisa, we have heard throughout this case that george zimmerman said that his head was banged against the concrete, yet the bodies were found on the grass. has anybody tried to explain that sort of inconsistency? >> zimmerman i believe was asked about that by law enforcement. we may hear testimony about that as early as today. he said they moved onto the grass after initially his head was banged on the
but on cross-examination, he said, really, the core of a defense self-defense case, and that is that george zimmerman was on the bottom, trayvon martin was on the top. that trayvon martin was pounding him, m, ma style, mixed martial arts style. that zimmerman was yelling for help. all this happened just moments before the bullet shot rang out. now, he had inconsistencies with his prior statements as well. he had to limit his testimony to what he could remember. he did not see george zimmerman's...
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>> the defense is now cross examining dr. nakasone. they're trying to make a point about listener bias. i think this is to set up the mother and father who will say that was trayvon on the tape. what the defense is trying to get the witness to say is that there will be listener bias. that that she would want it to be trayvon martin's voice. and so it should be in a blind setting. the judge said this was not the right witness for the argument about bias. >> we continue to watch the case there. lisa bloom is listening as well. let's go back to it. >> the increased risk of examiner bias, if a procedure were used where a group of people were being asked to listen to a recording to see if they could recognize who was on the recording. and that the process that was used involved putting all of the people in the same room at the same time around each other when the recordings were played. do you understand the sort of scenario there? under that scenario, would there be an increased risk of infecting the reliability of the identification based
>> the defense is now cross examining dr. nakasone. they're trying to make a point about listener bias. i think this is to set up the mother and father who will say that was trayvon on the tape. what the defense is trying to get the witness to say is that there will be listener bias. that that she would want it to be trayvon martin's voice. and so it should be in a blind setting. the judge said this was not the right witness for the argument about bias. >> we continue to watch the...
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i thought this was very much a defense witness here. >> i keep thinking i'm in a defense case. i'm in week 2 of this trial. it's very difficult to cross examine a tape or cross examine a written statement. danny, i'm going to get you in a moment to weigh in. there's other critical testimony that came out. that's about the screams heard on the p 911 tape. who's screams were they? who can best determine whose screams they are? you'll find out what the expert has to say and why the expert thinks maybe his analysis isn't needed after all. it's coming up in a moment in our special coverage of the george zimmerman trial. >> does he look hurt? >> i can't see him. >> they're sending him. >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. hi, buddy! that's why the free wifi and hot breakfast are something to smile about. book a great getaway now and feel the hamptonality see, i knew testosterone could affect sex drive, but not energy or even my mood. that's when i talked with my doctor. he gave me some blood tests... showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number. [ male announcer ] today, men wi
i thought this was very much a defense witness here. >> i keep thinking i'm in a defense case. i'm in week 2 of this trial. it's very difficult to cross examine a tape or cross examine a written statement. danny, i'm going to get you in a moment to weigh in. there's other critical testimony that came out. that's about the screams heard on the p 911 tape. who's screams were they? who can best determine whose screams they are? you'll find out what the expert has to say and why the expert...
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it's a big day for the defense. lots can happen in a trial and a lot can change. >> shepard: certainly it would be completely unfair to judge a trial when we're not all the way through it we can look at individual points. for one, greta, the star witness came up. the friend of trayvon martin with whom he was speaking in the moments before this altercation happened. her statements were inconsistent and confusing at best. and then this witness. at least for now the prosecution hasn't exactly been hitting it out of the park. >> no. not at all. you know, and, you know, it's sort of stunning. i mean, i wonder if they have overcharged the case or they better have a lot to back up in the next day or two. one of the things that they are going to rely on is a question much who is the aggressor and who was yelling help help in the background is a very important point. the prosecution is going to put on family members tomorrow of trayvon martin. going to say that the person yelling for help in the background was travon martin.
it's a big day for the defense. lots can happen in a trial and a lot can change. >> shepard: certainly it would be completely unfair to judge a trial when we're not all the way through it we can look at individual points. for one, greta, the star witness came up. the friend of trayvon martin with whom he was speaking in the moments before this altercation happened. her statements were inconsistent and confusing at best. and then this witness. at least for now the prosecution hasn't...
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one is by the department of defense and workplace gender relations survey's. and it has done part of this survey that was done with the military sample in this includes military report. those are two surveys that get out. again, as includes underreporting of sexual assault issues. also crime issues more broadly. as i have mentioned, we have focused on victim and civilian data and i guess we are rather crude on basic comparisons and that is because there is a challenge looking at two different data systems and the different way that data is collected. so the issues to be mindful of include the slides and basically you had said that issues of the survey design have differences between the civilian data and the military data that has been part of this data. probably the largest one is the scope of what it included and we are looking at sexual violence, which is attempted and threatened rape and sexual assault. but the military data also includes the non-conceptual sexual touching. those types of things can be included in this. but it explicitly screens for those
one is by the department of defense and workplace gender relations survey's. and it has done part of this survey that was done with the military sample in this includes military report. those are two surveys that get out. again, as includes underreporting of sexual assault issues. also crime issues more broadly. as i have mentioned, we have focused on victim and civilian data and i guess we are rather crude on basic comparisons and that is because there is a challenge looking at two different...
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he confirms the defense's defense. before the trial started it seemed that george zimmerman would have to testify because he wants to put forward his self-defense claim. now that you have john good testifying that zimmerman appeared to be on the bottom of the fight before he shot trayvon martin, you know, maybe now george zimmerman won't even need to testify because self-defense has already been put forth into the facts of the case to be decided by the jury, by the prosecution. so it was a real problem for the prosecution, as you said they had to call him but it certainly didn't help them. greg: john, to that point, in addition to john good, do you think 4 forthcoming the defense will be able to get their client's testimony in through the reporting police officers? after all he gave a great many statements to them, including a video taped re-enactment the next day. >> yeah, that might also be a judgment call as to how much of that evidence is going to come in without the testimony. typically in a self-defense case a de
he confirms the defense's defense. before the trial started it seemed that george zimmerman would have to testify because he wants to put forward his self-defense claim. now that you have john good testifying that zimmerman appeared to be on the bottom of the fight before he shot trayvon martin, you know, maybe now george zimmerman won't even need to testify because self-defense has already been put forth into the facts of the case to be decided by the jury, by the prosecution. so it was a real...
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the defense or the prosecution? >> the uncertainty is what the defense is all about trying to create. the prosecution has to eliminate reasonable doubt. what the prosecutors hope is we're beginning to see now the prosecution believes they can attack as not being truthful. that they hope will provide the missing link. because if george zimmerman was being untruthful about what happened, then that strongly suggests that he could have been guilty of a crime that night. >> kendall, sorry to cut you off there. we are going back to the case as it's in progress. we're hearing audio from the night that detectivive singleton interviewed george zimmerman. let's listen in. >> this time i was leaving to go to the grocery store and like i said, i saw a man walking in the neighborhood. standing in front of the same house i had called the police before to come to because this guy leaves his doors unlocked and stuff. he was walking leisurely and looking at the houses. so i just pulled my car to the side and i called the non-emergen
the defense or the prosecution? >> the uncertainty is what the defense is all about trying to create. the prosecution has to eliminate reasonable doubt. what the prosecutors hope is we're beginning to see now the prosecution believes they can attack as not being truthful. that they hope will provide the missing link. because if george zimmerman was being untruthful about what happened, then that strongly suggests that he could have been guilty of a crime that night. >> kendall,...
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counter terrorism expert during cross-examination the defense try. to discredit this witness some of his testimony today was done in a closed session now as this trial progresses the big question is has the prosecution presented enough evidence to prove the most serious charges of espionage and aiding the enemy these are charges that if convicted carry a life sentence without parole and i've spoken to many of many supporters here that see him as a hero for shedding a light on the government's dark secrets important to note that since the trial is focused on classified information some of the trial is done in a closed session where the media and the public are not authorized to hear what is going on here in fort meade maryland liz wall r.t. well we all know how nerve wracking the first day of a new job can be and the u.s. special envoy to guantanamo bay clifford sloan is the new one has his work cut out for him so is a partner at a procedure scott an arts firm in washington d.c. and has served in both democratic and republican administrations in the p
counter terrorism expert during cross-examination the defense try. to discredit this witness some of his testimony today was done in a closed session now as this trial progresses the big question is has the prosecution presented enough evidence to prove the most serious charges of espionage and aiding the enemy these are charges that if convicted carry a life sentence without parole and i've spoken to many of many supporters here that see him as a hero for shedding a light on the government's...
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who has been very favorable to the defense. let's listen. >> -- in his heart or mind at time that he sought out, to use his word, followed, the 17-year-old unarmed boy. >> i only knew what he told me. >> you were also asked about whether there was an eyewitness or not, you hadn't interviewed anybody up to the point. >> no, i didn't speak to anybody prior to speaking with zimmerman. >> mr. o'mara asked you about the screaming -- asked you a number of questions about a recording about screaming. >> yes. >> okay. mr. zimmerman, the defendant told you that he saw people out there, correct? >> yes. >> so he had to have known that if somebody was screaming, whether it was him or somebody else, somebody would have heard it. >> somebody potentially heard it because they came out and said they saw one person. >> he, the defendant, is claiming it was him. you can't say whether it was him or not, can you? >> i'm sorry, i don't understand the question. >> you can't say it was mr. zimmerman screaming for help. >> i can't say that, no. >> th
who has been very favorable to the defense. let's listen. >> -- in his heart or mind at time that he sought out, to use his word, followed, the 17-year-old unarmed boy. >> i only knew what he told me. >> you were also asked about whether there was an eyewitness or not, you hadn't interviewed anybody up to the point. >> no, i didn't speak to anybody prior to speaking with zimmerman. >> mr. o'mara asked you about the screaming -- asked you a number of questions about...
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is going to be the defense's case to lose. however i have seen them do an excellent job with what little they have. >> we do have testimony on the conflict. at one hand we see the prosecution witness who was almost turned into a defense witness saying it was george zimmerman on the bottom and trayvon martin on top and there's another witness that describes the opposite. if there's a conflict in the evidence like that, does the doubt go to the defendant? that's reasonable doubt? >> it does if it's presented in that way. however, if it is presented in the way that the jury is supposed to find out who the initial aggressor was, and that's the key issue. who was the one that started this fight? who was the aggressor? who was the one that made this completely -- this was a completely avoidable incident, who turned it into an unavoidable incident? and if the jury can reach that conclusion they'll either vote for guilty or not guilty. >> one of the key witnesses we saw last week was rachel jeantel. she was the young woman on the phon
is going to be the defense's case to lose. however i have seen them do an excellent job with what little they have. >> we do have testimony on the conflict. at one hand we see the prosecution witness who was almost turned into a defense witness saying it was george zimmerman on the bottom and trayvon martin on top and there's another witness that describes the opposite. if there's a conflict in the evidence like that, does the doubt go to the defendant? that's reasonable doubt? >>...
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> and i had to defend myself and i shot him. >> outside the court room, a potential concern for the defense is this instagram posting. a picture that says with the words, we beat stupidity, and the hash tag dad killed it. and it was posted by don west daughter's. he released a statement that says in part, sometimes we are deeply disappointed by things our children do but we love them any way and we move on. trayvon martin's parents say they will not react to that posting. >> thank you. when nbc nightly news continues on the sunday evening, the promising new drug that could improve the lives of millions of women who suffer from hot flashes. >>> and a soothing sound to babies. new therapy that is more than music to their ears. >>> health news tonight that could mean a big change in treatment for millions of women dealing with one of the more unpleasant effects of menopause. a new drug approved by the fda is the first of its kind. >> reporter: it's the most common symptom of menopause and hollywood has had a field day with it. >> look at this, my first day as a woman and i'm getting hot flashe
> and i had to defend myself and i shot him. >> outside the court room, a potential concern for the defense is this instagram posting. a picture that says with the words, we beat stupidity, and the hash tag dad killed it. and it was posted by don west daughter's. he released a statement that says in part, sometimes we are deeply disappointed by things our children do but we love them any way and we move on. trayvon martin's parents say they will not react to that posting. >>...
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daniel schwartz interviewed mark david chapman on eight different cases for the defense. clearly, he knew what he was doing, using the gun in an all too accurate way. he knew it was a gun. he knew it could kill. and he pointed it at the intended victim, and unfortunately, it work. the question in the case is whether the mental illness impaired his ability to appreciate that what he was doing was wrong. simply being somebody mentally ill does not acquit somebody, but it is only if the mental illness impairs his ability to know and appreciate the nature and the consequence of the conduct or that it is wrong. >> dr. schwartz believes that chapman's mental illness began in childhood. >> mr. chapman became seriously withdrawn at about the age of 9 or 10. it was about that age that he began imagining a whole world of people, little people. in the living room n the walls of his living room, and he was their emperor, their commander, and it was my clinical assessment that he was both a paranoid schizophrenic as we understood the definition in those days, and suffering from bipola
daniel schwartz interviewed mark david chapman on eight different cases for the defense. clearly, he knew what he was doing, using the gun in an all too accurate way. he knew it was a gun. he knew it could kill. and he pointed it at the intended victim, and unfortunately, it work. the question in the case is whether the mental illness impaired his ability to appreciate that what he was doing was wrong. simply being somebody mentally ill does not acquit somebody, but it is only if the mental...
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we've always been a party of aa strong national defense. we've always believed in what reagan said that peace through strength should be a hallrk of this countr so, yeah, we -- >> but isn't the operive word there reince defense, n attack? >> listen, but establishing freedom around the world is something that's a cornerstone of this country. >> wait a minute. whoa! are you saying to me that we have jus taken on the responsibility of bringing freedom -- >> no, of course not. we don't have the responsibility to carpet the world. i do think, though, as president of the united states that you have to exhibit strength an sometimes strength is yes and sometimes strength is no but i also think that dabbling and playing both sides of the fence and suddenlyoming out in far of some support after a former president criticizes you kind of just shows you exactly where this president's at. >> i don't know if you wch charlie rose or not but last me he reversed his reversal. he's bacto wuss. >> and he's evolved on everything. he involving now on nsa. now he
we've always been a party of aa strong national defense. we've always believed in what reagan said that peace through strength should be a hallrk of this countr so, yeah, we -- >> but isn't the operive word there reince defense, n attack? >> listen, but establishing freedom around the world is something that's a cornerstone of this country. >> wait a minute. whoa! are you saying to me that we have jus taken on the responsibility of bringing freedom -- >> no, of course...
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>> i think it's a great advantage to the defense and disadvantage to the state. i think you have a bulldog of a prosecutor and i think he would have a field day if he gets george zimmerman who has prove ed less than credible with his statements and i think the prosecutor would love to reexam here. he has a break. he has all these statements and now there's not going to be even though the jurors are never supposed to pay attention if a defendant doesn't take the stand, we all know at times some of them do. here the beauty for the defense is they've got a real live realtime george zimmerman, thinner, leaner, acting calm and giving his version. what the state is forced to do is lay all of zimmerman's prior statements each atop of one another and try to point out the inconsistencie inconsistencies. that's a difficult road for them to travel because they don't have the ability to trip him up on the stand. i think this shows one reason why the defense did not have a stand your ground hearing. they knew they would have to put george zimmerman on the stand and they opted
>> i think it's a great advantage to the defense and disadvantage to the state. i think you have a bulldog of a prosecutor and i think he would have a field day if he gets george zimmerman who has prove ed less than credible with his statements and i think the prosecutor would love to reexam here. he has a break. he has all these statements and now there's not going to be even though the jurors are never supposed to pay attention if a defendant doesn't take the stand, we all know at times...
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. >> let's bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom and criminal defense attorney john burress. lisa, we have detective doris singleton. interesting dynamic with the prosecution and how they've chosen to come after this witness that they called to the stand specifically on speculation and her assessment in taking george zimmerman's account of what happened that night. >> this is yet another witness that seems more comfortable answering questions from the defense than from the prosecution. and this police detective had to say that despite her lengthy interview that night of george zimmerm zimmerman, he seemed to have no ill will or hatred, and she tells a very interesting story where she says zimmerman noticed a silver cross around her neck. he asked her if she was catholic. she said no, i'm christian, why? he said because don't catholics think that killing is wrong under all circumstances? she said to him, seemingly comforting him, i don't think that's what god meant. i don't think that god meant you couldn't save your own life. it seems as though at least that evening she belie
. >> let's bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom and criminal defense attorney john burress. lisa, we have detective doris singleton. interesting dynamic with the prosecution and how they've chosen to come after this witness that they called to the stand specifically on speculation and her assessment in taking george zimmerman's account of what happened that night. >> this is yet another witness that seems more comfortable answering questions from the defense than from the...
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if they didn't put the them, the defense would put them on and imply that the prosecution was hiding the ball. that's why they did it. but with george zimmerman, detectives always ask this level of specificity because the devil's in the details. anybody can tell a very general story and make it sound like self-defense but they have to go second by second, go along a map, use a timeline, ask detailed questions, and ask the same questions over and over again to ascertain whether george zimmerman, or anybody who's being questioned by the police, is telling the truth or not. >> midwin charles, let's get into a couple of those specifics. bushes. the idea, according to george zimmerman with, that trayvon martin jumped out from behind bushes, something that the investigators say there weren't really bushes in that area. the second one, slamming his head against the pavement. he's repeatedly stated his head was banged against the pavement, but again, this wasn't testified to by people. he said he could see neighbors coming out. that wasn't there with the previous witnesses. >>> again, this a
if they didn't put the them, the defense would put them on and imply that the prosecution was hiding the ball. that's why they did it. but with george zimmerman, detectives always ask this level of specificity because the devil's in the details. anybody can tell a very general story and make it sound like self-defense but they have to go second by second, go along a map, use a timeline, ask detailed questions, and ask the same questions over and over again to ascertain whether george zimmerman,...
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your thoughts as you heard about the court's decisions on both prop 8 and defense of marriage act. >> i think the court complicated the issue, and i am with you, governor, 100% of the way. this isn't equal protection under the law, you can do it with civil unions. you don't have to redefine what thousands of years of tradition defined as marriage is between a man and woman, the sanctity of marriage should be preserved in that respect. we could have argument about where the government comes in, telling you who you can and can't marry, that's an intellectual argument to have. i don't think it is necessary to redefine marriage to get something that they want, which is tax benefits or, you know, access to visitation. i don't think anybody has any problem with loving who you want to love, if you want to have certain contractual equal protection, we can have that. redefining marriage is i think unnecessary and not a good thing for this country. where do you draw the line? >> the president has been under fire for a number of scandals since he started his second term. no longer is he immune f
your thoughts as you heard about the court's decisions on both prop 8 and defense of marriage act. >> i think the court complicated the issue, and i am with you, governor, 100% of the way. this isn't equal protection under the law, you can do it with civil unions. you don't have to redefine what thousands of years of tradition defined as marriage is between a man and woman, the sanctity of marriage should be preserved in that respect. we could have argument about where the government...
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today was such a good day for the defense. if the jury had to make up their minds this afternoon zimmerman would be going home. think about what the prosecution did. they put on this video which completely humanize him. up until now no one has heard his voice. he explains exactly what was going through his mind and why and does come across credible with no opportunity for the prosecutor to cross-examine him. the key point was when he said, i thought that he was going for my gun. so far the prosecution has been saying, he shot an unarmed kid. the kid according to ham was about to become armed. i think that was a crucial moment for the defense. lori: your reaction to every the prosecution so far, the witnesses cannot talk about credibility. you can't really point to that. >> i agree. i think at the end of the day this case will go into the legal textbooks as a burden of proof. lori: that little thing. >> it will show what would you talk about, the tide goes to the runner. all these different versions. nearly a fist fight and he
today was such a good day for the defense. if the jury had to make up their minds this afternoon zimmerman would be going home. think about what the prosecution did. they put on this video which completely humanize him. up until now no one has heard his voice. he explains exactly what was going through his mind and why and does come across credible with no opportunity for the prosecutor to cross-examine him. the key point was when he said, i thought that he was going for my gun. so far the...
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then in his dissent -- defense of marriage act, he did it again. and you know, i give him credit for calling it the way he's seeing it because i think the principles, when you start with equality they guide directly to the elimination of these restrictions at some point and i'm hoping it will be sooner rather than later and this is just such a great steppingstone to that. >> stephanie: you know, ted if you had to make a prediction, so this will have to happen state by state. is there a point of marriage equality? is there a timeframe that you see? >> it is not going to require each state's law be struck down one by one. i think we're going to see a series of additional cases at the federal level and at some point, i would say in the next couple of years, a case will get to the supreme court where there's standing, where there's no jurisdictional issue and the principles that we've seen -- that -- in striking down proposition 8 is the ruling that now governs in california. >> stephanie: will we see our friend brought up earlier about the loving deci
then in his dissent -- defense of marriage act, he did it again. and you know, i give him credit for calling it the way he's seeing it because i think the principles, when you start with equality they guide directly to the elimination of these restrictions at some point and i'm hoping it will be sooner rather than later and this is just such a great steppingstone to that. >> stephanie: you know, ted if you had to make a prediction, so this will have to happen state by state. is there a...
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the fundamental defense of the united states is a public responsibility. obviously, every company wants to protect its its own intellectual property and its market. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr. chairman. wanted to gou ahead and make a comment on that last question. >> i think frankly this body has an important role to play, because in the absence of strong government intervention on this issue. i am sure many of you have seen the rise of certain companies that are advertising as part of their services that they themselves will engage in aggressive defensive measures and michel we say, or even hack back in the perception that government is not doing anything to help. when i testified before the hudson-blair commission we had a lengthy discussion about some of the outdated features of the 1986 computer fraud and abuse act, and the fact that frankly many companies right now are looking to congress for -- and frankly, the department of justice -- as to where the legal boundaries are on this issues about hacked back and being able to aggressively going after
the fundamental defense of the united states is a public responsibility. obviously, every company wants to protect its its own intellectual property and its market. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr. chairman. wanted to gou ahead and make a comment on that last question. >> i think frankly this body has an important role to play, because in the absence of strong government intervention on this issue. i am sure many of you have seen the rise of certain companies that are...
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and let me bring to your attention that the amendment that would have provided for defense and security on the border was defeated and voted ainst by the gang of eight, the grassley amendment which would have provided r significant security, the real deal, was defeated and with the votes of all of the members of the gang of eight. at what point doesnybody in either the republican or democratic party, if i may say, pay attention to history here? in 2006 and 2007 there could have been a bill th was passed into law but thos senators -- primarily senators -- and president trying to gain the issue were watching the same thing unfolding here. the folks watching you and me tonight, they're going to vote and they're going to vote i think in significant numbers and they're kind of tired of being games. >> i tnk everybody is tired of being gamed. >> i got it but what's the point? >> the point is that -- my point is that unless you have and the reason we're focusing on this border security piece -- >> you're focused on it? are you kidding m marc rub ted against it. ndsay graham voted aainst it. >>
and let me bring to your attention that the amendment that would have provided for defense and security on the border was defeated and voted ainst by the gang of eight, the grassley amendment which would have provided r significant security, the real deal, was defeated and with the votes of all of the members of the gang of eight. at what point doesnybody in either the republican or democratic party, if i may say, pay attention to history here? in 2006 and 2007 there could have been a bill th...
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the defense even conceded that in their opening. he's on the call with the police, are you following him? he says, yeah. they say, we don't need you to do that. nevertheless, he appears to continue to follow trayvon martin. trayvon martin is on the phone with his friend, rachel gentel. and he said to her, someone's following me, this creepy man, i'm cleaning up her language, and she said that the last words trayvon martin said to her were, get off, get off. that implies george zimmerman is the aggressor. but the defense got her to concede that she didn't say that in her first statements. that she added that in later. will the jury believe that? >> that's contradicted to the other witness who said it was -- the other one was on top. it seems like it's a he said/she said. the big recreation pieced together. what has surprised you the most? what is the most surprising thing that you've seen throughout this trial so far? >> i would say how much the defense has been able to turn most of the prosecution witnesses in their favor to elicit
the defense even conceded that in their opening. he's on the call with the police, are you following him? he says, yeah. they say, we don't need you to do that. nevertheless, he appears to continue to follow trayvon martin. trayvon martin is on the phone with his friend, rachel gentel. and he said to her, someone's following me, this creepy man, i'm cleaning up her language, and she said that the last words trayvon martin said to her were, get off, get off. that implies george zimmerman is the...
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the court's decision last week, justice kennedy's opinion for the court and defense of marriage act case laid out that discriminating against couples demeans them, humiliates them and their children. directly in line with what the court had said in prior decisions. they're going to lead, i think, to marriage equality in this country. i think mr. reed is wrong. there's been a wave of public support, as you and your audience knows, in support of marriage equality and the wave just got a whole lot bigger last week with the supreme court's decision. to be here in california and see people getting married and the joy that is running through this state is remarkable. >> brian, do the members oppose you, won't let you speak up in harrisburg, even in executive session, do they know their time is running out, young people joining the election rolls certainly 18 to 25, up to 25 or 40 now, are clearly pro-equality? >> not only do they know it, chris, i think that's what this was about. let's be clear. marriage equality is going to become the law of the land no matter what. i think this is an issue
the court's decision last week, justice kennedy's opinion for the court and defense of marriage act case laid out that discriminating against couples demeans them, humiliates them and their children. directly in line with what the court had said in prior decisions. they're going to lead, i think, to marriage equality in this country. i think mr. reed is wrong. there's been a wave of public support, as you and your audience knows, in support of marriage equality and the wave just got a whole lot...
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even in the decision on the defense of marriage or doma, the legislation was passed overwhelmingly by both houses of congress in a bipartisan vote, and it was signed by a democrat, president bill clinton. no matter that some people who voted for it say they have evolved, and that they are now against it. but if that's so, then put it back before the world's greatest deliberative body and the people's house and see how it flies. same-sex marriage is newer than google and the ipod. and the first nation to even codify it into law didn't do so until the year 2000. now, i'm told that i need to get on the right side of history and support the marriage of two people of the same gender. well, i respectfully believe that i am on the right side of history, because the history is pretty long on marriage between a man and a woman, not so much for other versions. despite the frothing of the advocates to the contrary, i'm neither a homo-phobo or hater. i'm simple enough to believe that a marriage between one man and one woman not only is the only biological combination capable of creating the next
even in the decision on the defense of marriage or doma, the legislation was passed overwhelmingly by both houses of congress in a bipartisan vote, and it was signed by a democrat, president bill clinton. no matter that some people who voted for it say they have evolved, and that they are now against it. but if that's so, then put it back before the world's greatest deliberative body and the people's house and see how it flies. same-sex marriage is newer than google and the ipod. and the first...
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when we saw cross examination, we saw the defense go back to dr. nakasonement they questioned and made sure the jury is aware, number one, there is no science to determine screaming aed no way to determine the age of a person screaming on that tape. >> all right. what i want to do right now, since you brought that up, george, actually play that small reference of the tape. no one is missing the. the. they are at a brake. we will get you back to trial. where that voice analysis expert was questioned about who is best suited to determine whose voice is on the tape. have a listen. >> so i get what you are saying is it would be better if you were attempting to a familiar voice identification have someone who has heard the potential subject here under a variety of conditions as opposed to simply say talking to the back and forth in a courtroom or a meeting or something like that? >> yes, sir. is correct. >> and that that would be about the best approach you could take given this particular sample? >> that's the prosecutor rich mante. the voice expert ta
when we saw cross examination, we saw the defense go back to dr. nakasonement they questioned and made sure the jury is aware, number one, there is no science to determine screaming aed no way to determine the age of a person screaming on that tape. >> all right. what i want to do right now, since you brought that up, george, actually play that small reference of the tape. no one is missing the. the. they are at a brake. we will get you back to trial. where that voice analysis expert was...
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that's only three people the president of the united states the vice president and the secretary of defense and that meant that all three of those individuals already knew about nine eleven in april of two thousand and one and we know now that there were i mean dozens of warnings that went well beyond the august six p.t.b. that everyone talks about i mean we're talking about the light blinking red for months and months yes susan what my question i guess if people knew specifics i mean we're talking about specifics not just warning bin laden you know. why didn't more people call it the government's total plea of incompetence after the senate well what the government did was the government made an example of those of us who knew the truth and they said if you if you cross the line now i want to emphasize i requested to testify through proper channels i was a whistleblower but i did it through congress i tried to do it through congress and and a lot of whistleblowers are citing my case as evidence that going through the proper channels is not going to work and is not going to protect the publi
that's only three people the president of the united states the vice president and the secretary of defense and that meant that all three of those individuals already knew about nine eleven in april of two thousand and one and we know now that there were i mean dozens of warnings that went well beyond the august six p.t.b. that everyone talks about i mean we're talking about the light blinking red for months and months yes susan what my question i guess if people knew specifics i mean we're...
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of marriage act what's your take on this well defense of marriage act was clearly unconstitutional of the constitution when they passed and the reason the simple no way in this document and say anything about the federal government defining marriage that has always been something that's been the province of the states it should actually probably be a private matter of people why should the states be involved at all in marriage a civil contract it would be really hard to undo hundreds of years of law in the united states and i think every single country on the globe where the government sanctioned marriage marriage provides about two thousand civil benefits and one thousand state level of thousand at the federal level and i don't know of a single country on earth that just allows marriages to be private there may be one somewhere but the government you know whether it's taxes or security or medicare or frankly who raises children marriage laws help order society ok financial implications of doma are there any i mean a lot actually one thing i gave couples can now file joint income tax
of marriage act what's your take on this well defense of marriage act was clearly unconstitutional of the constitution when they passed and the reason the simple no way in this document and say anything about the federal government defining marriage that has always been something that's been the province of the states it should actually probably be a private matter of people why should the states be involved at all in marriage a civil contract it would be really hard to undo hundreds of years...
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zimmerman says it was self defense. also today, an audio expert with the fbi said the recording of a person begging for help was not clear enough for him to determine who screamed. he said someone familiar with the voice might be able to identify it. establishing who was the aggressor is considered a major focus of that trial. >>> spending on residential housing construction was up a little over one percentage point in may to the highest level in four and a half years. the dow started the week ahead 65, s&p 500 up 9 and nasdaq 31. >>> if you are considering going to school, your bills may go up. mike emanuel tells us why your college education got more expensive. >> reporter: congress went on recess, college students needing new federal loans were left with interest rates double the 6.8%. a bipartisan group offered a fix, link student loans to financial markets rather than have congress set the rates. >> this would be fair to taxpayers and fair to the students. >> reporter: president obama proposed tying them to the ten
zimmerman says it was self defense. also today, an audio expert with the fbi said the recording of a person begging for help was not clear enough for him to determine who screamed. he said someone familiar with the voice might be able to identify it. establishing who was the aggressor is considered a major focus of that trial. >>> spending on residential housing construction was up a little over one percentage point in may to the highest level in four and a half years. the dow started...
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they found george zimmerman acted in self-defense. jurors ended the week on day five hearing from the only eyewitness to the struggle between zimmerman and martin. he saw two people on the ground. the person on top was wearing darker clothes. the man under seemed to have a lighter complexion like george zimmerman. >> what you saw was the person on top in an mma straddle type position, correct? >> correct. >> good's testimony is important to the defense because it contradicts the testimony of two key witnesses for the state. selma moor heard yelling, stepped out of the home and saw a man, who appeared to be george zimmerman on top. >> the person on top did not respond to the first two times that you called to him, correct? and the third time he said, just call the police? >> correct. >> another important witness for prosecutors, rachel jeantel on the phone with martin moments before he was killed. over four hours of questioning, she maintained it was george zimmerman who was the aggressor. >> i thought you said it could have been, for
they found george zimmerman acted in self-defense. jurors ended the week on day five hearing from the only eyewitness to the struggle between zimmerman and martin. he saw two people on the ground. the person on top was wearing darker clothes. the man under seemed to have a lighter complexion like george zimmerman. >> what you saw was the person on top in an mma straddle type position, correct? >> correct. >> good's testimony is important to the defense because it contradicts...